Earlier this week I posted a series of climate education & action Tweets that ended with this one:
#ClimateAction Tuesday 6/6
So today you're busy, & every day *anyway* do your small personal #carbonfootprint actions AND one bigger systemic policy action.
Seems like good advice, right? The next day I listened to an episode of the podcast "How to Save a Planet" with Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Alex Blumberg called "Is Your Carbon Footprint BS?" (Listening will be better than reading this, but in case you don't have 47 minutes, I'm excerpting from the transcript.)
The episode begins with a debate between siblings that any of us who are paying attention have had, internally or with others. (By the way, there IS a poem at this end of this long post...hold out for it!)
Anna: My brother and I, we agree on a lot of things, but one topic that we
always argue about is individual versus systemic, policy-based change. I
know that we're not gonna recycle and bike and beyond burger our way
out of climate change, but I do have a slightly more optimistic view
that individual consumer choices can make a difference. So am I just a
sucker, or can individuals actually do something?
Ayana: Yeah, and Anna says her brother thinks none of that stuff is actually
gonna get us out of the climate crisis. That climate change is a huge,
systemic problem, and the only way to fix it is with big, systemic
solutions.
In the first half, the hosts consider whether individual actions can have worthwhile impact, and they identify the top five actions that can have the
greatest impact on your individual carbon footprint.
1)Make fewer new humans. Also known as have fewer children.
2) Drive less. Or if you do drive, drive electric.
3) Fly less. Full stop.
4) Become more energy efficient, insulate your home. And if you can, install solar panels.
5) Switch to a plant-based diet.
And then we hear this:
Alex: So
that's the list, or at least, you know, sort of generally what are the
top five items on that list. But remember, we're arguing in this half of
the episode that individual actions do not really matter that much.
Ayana: Because
even if you do all five things on this list perfectly, you as an
individual are a tiny, tiny percent of the overall problem.
Alex: [laughs] I love doing the math. We compared
the average American's carbon footprint to the overall amount of carbon
emissions globally. And remember, average American, pretty big
footprint, 16 tons. Overall global emissions, 50 billion tons.
What
this means is that the average American's contribution to the total
global problem is 0.0000000003. That is a decimal point and then nine
zeros and then a three. And statistically ...
Ayana: That's basically zero. [laughs]
Alex: It rounds to zero. [laughs] So individually, I think the math would suggest that we have zero impact on the larger problem.
Ayana: And
as professor Dr. Leah Stokes, who's been on the show before puts it,
even if you are the perfect, zero-waste, low-carbon footprint human
being, that doesn't change the world unless you do something bigger than
yourself. Because if you disappear tomorrow, we would still be facing
exactly the same magnitude of climate crisis because you're just a
rounding error to global carbon emissions.
Alex: And
this might make certain people feel sad and maybe hopeless and defeated
but, you know, Ayana, you and I talked with Katharine Wilkinson about
this, and we actually think it is good news. Because it means, if you
change the systems, then you're changing millions of people's carbon
footprints without them having to do anything.
Katharine Wilkinson: My
feeling is, thank goddess we don't have to rely on every individual
getting everything right in their own lives, because New Year's
resolutions don't even last a month, you know? [laughs]
Like,
we'd really be in a lot of trouble. Like, more trouble than we're in if
we were dependent on every single person on the planet doing every
single thing right.
Alex: Yes.
But this is what makes people throw up their hands, right? Like, that
feels out of my control, right? Like, well, I can't change a coal plant
to a wind farm. I can't, you know, make everybody drive an electric car
or whatever.
Ayana: I can't put in bike lanes.
Katharine Wilkinson: Yeah. I
feel like we have to quote Bill McKibben, right? He's like, climate
change is a math problem, and the numbers are really, really big. And
now the timelines are very, very tight. So we have to be thinking in
terms of, like, our greatest leverage to get the biggest reductions
possible.
Alex: And
perhaps put it more strongly than she would have, but essentially my
takeaway from our conversation, is screw your carbon footprint.
Ayana: [laughs]
Alex: Screw devoting all of this time and energy to sort of like trying to minutely lower your impact. Because
when you focus all your effort on this, you're focusing all this effort
on something that makes a pretty tiny difference in the grand scheme of
things.
Leading me to a moment of crushing despair. But then the team argued a second view, which is that individual actions can matter a lot, in a different, less mathematical way.
Alex: But now we're gonna lay out the case for
Anna's position, that our individual choices do matter. And Ayana, let's
start here. Our guest, Katharine Wilkinson, who was just arguing that
what we do as individuals barely registers against the total amounts of
carbon in the atmosphere, when you ask her about her own personal
choices, though ...
Katharine Wilkinson: So I'm vegetarian. I love composting. I'm chipping away at energy efficiency upgrades in my home, blah, blah, blah, right? And there's some research—all of which matter, tiny, tiny, tiny minuscule amounts.
Katharine Wilkinson: But,
anything that keeps us focused kind of moment to moment on the world
that we want to create is a good thing, right? Like, I can't vote three
times a day, but I do eat three times a day. And I think every time we
do these things, it gives us a chance to reflect on our values, reflect
on our connection to the planet's living systems, to think about what it
is that we're trying to do here.
Alex: You know, because If you're focused only on reducing your own
emissions from, you know, I don't know, 16 tons to 12 tons a year, you
know, being the best climate gold star sticker winner you can be, you're
having a negligible effect.
Ayana: But
if you instead think about your actions as a form of communication, as
an invitation for others to join you, then your action can lead to other
actions that can actually lead to change. One great example of this is the trend around flying in Europe.
Alex: Starting
a few years ago, more and more people in Europe started making the
conscious choice to fly less for the climate. Those people included
Greta Thunberg, the very famous Swedish climate activist. She very
publicly took a boat across the Atlantic to come to a UN conference in
2019 instead of flying.
Steve Westlake: And
then in response to that, there's been a movement in Sweden and Europe
and beyond, and I'm sure people in America as well, to also change their
own behavior.
Alex: This is
climate researcher Steve Westlake. he found that yes, 75
percent of the people he surveyed who knew somebody who gave up flying
said they also changed their own attitudes about flying and climate
change, and about half of them actually started flying less themselves.
Steve Westlake: That
sends a message, sends a strong message, that this is what people want,
more and more people want systemic change. And that has a ripple
effect. And so support for policies, messages to politicians become
stronger. So my view on individual change, it's a way of communicating.
It's saying this is really important, it has influence on other people.
Anthony Leiserowitz: And that's one of
the single most important things that anyone, anyone can do. When people
say, "What can I do about climate change?" My answer first and foremost
is talk about it.
Ayana: This is Dr. Anthony Leiserowitz, who runs the Yale Center for Climate Change Communication.
They've been doing polling on Americans' opinions on climate for over a
decade now, and what they have learned is that people assume there are
more climate deniers out there than there actually are, because deniers
are just louder. But actually, it's only about 10 percent or so of
Americans who are firmly in denial about climate science, and the rest
of us can team up and get some really cool things done.
Alex: Yeah.
And Anthony's research indicates that, like, because we have this
feeling that the people who disagree with us are in much greater numbers
than they are, we clam up.
Alex: So talking about it? Super important. But also super important? How we talk about it.
Katharine Wilkinson: We
have to be really careful because nobody wants to come to a
finger-wagging party, right? And a lot of these, like, individuals ...
Ayana: That sounds terrible and kind of creepy. You're doing it wrong. You're not a perfect environmentalist.
Katharine Wilkinson: Right?
And that's kind of been what the environmental movement has done. Like,
you need to do these things and not do these things. And, like, if I
see a light bulb that's not an LED, like, you are off the list, you
know? Like, we need to be welcoming people in, inviting them in. And I
don't want people consumed with shame and guilt when we should be
thinking about how powerful we can be together, right? And what makes me feel courageous and powerful and keeps me in the work are the wins that we get when we do things together.
So there it is, folks. Our individual actions DO matter, but not in a mathematical impact way--until we talk about them in a welcoming, inviting way so they can influence other individuals to participate in both the conversation and the work. Here's my poem, and in the comments I invite you to talk about the miniscule actions--including raising your voice about systemic policy actions--that you are doing to stay focused on the world we want to create AND to bring others on board. And do call me out if you catch any finger-wagging in my tone!
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Our host today is Carol at The Apples in My Orchard, where she's posting about one of my favorite topics, writing poetry with kids. See you there, and if you think of it on September 3rd when I'll be hosting Poetry Friday, do consider a climate action post of your own, to let us know what's going right in your area, whether it's home, community, town, state or slice of the Planet!
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